iStalk – 191

Posted on Oct 27 2009


Today, Gigantor is a real remote controlled robot warrior, Bakemonogatari delays its free online releases, and Japan is gunning for all you illegal anime providers.

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  • The Anime Lounge Forums October 27, 2009 at 2:24 PM

    iStalk 191 10/27/09…

    Today, Gigantor is a real remote controlled robot warrior, Bakemonogatari delays its free online releases, and Japan is gunning……

  • WanderingArtist October 27, 2009 at 3:37 PM

    Honestly, I like free stuff as much as the next lazy person, but I think you’re taking the crusade a little too far. Granted, internet users may have grown used to blatantly violating international intellectual property laws due to the diffusion of piracy and sharing across so many individuals, but that hardly means you can be up in arms when such laws are actually enforced. I mean, essentially the argument seems to be “I shouldn’t have to pay for something that I used to be able to steal without consequence.” Certainly it’s sad to see the streaming services go and be monetized, but it seems incredibly fallacious to go from “they’re charging now and weren’t before” to “I’ll steal this then, to spite them.” If you really love a product and want to see it supported stealing it and distributing it with no compensation to its creators is wholly counterintuitive.

    Putting aside the fact that having a copyright legally obliges the copyright holder to seek out and litigate potential violators so as to protect the copyright, what’s with the slippery slope argument? “

  • AnarchoElk October 27, 2009 at 4:27 PM

    Bro, that wasn’t meant as a serious crusade. 918thefan would never promote breaking the law. It was just an expression of displeasure at the greedy nature of capitalism.

    I could debate with you on the merits of intellectual property, and the current system of exchanging money for goods and services, especially those without physical form, and about how much the creator actually gets whenever someone buys a product, and if it is an efficient business model for actually compensating the creators for their work, but that would just take forever.

    However, 918thefan does not support or endorse illegal activities, regardless of what individual members may think about intellectual property and copyright law, we all still follow them to ensure the system, with all it’s merits and flaws, runs smoothly.

  • Sandgolem October 27, 2009 at 4:28 PM

    You make a very good point Wandering Artist, but I guess my problems come from the fact that I see them on TV for free, but with ADs but with sites possibly trending towards the same way but then also including a subscription fee. To me its more of a “Hi, normally you’d be able to just watch this for free on TV but now, you need to watch 4 ads, pay for a subscription fee, and conform to extremely limited availability and limited release times.

    Do keep in mind we here on this site do pay for our anime or use our free directory to watch anime. But I was happy with the reduction in piracy and increasing in revenues companies were reporting at last years AX industry panel

  • Chibi-Acer October 27, 2009 at 6:39 PM

    Piracy is no good, for all the obvious reasons. Still, I do agree that distributors/publishers need to be very careful about how they manage their property.

    One of the reasons so many people are switching from cable to Internet TV is because of costs, paying $50+ a month for dozens and dozens of channels no one watches. I understand that companies want to take advantage of other revenue streams, but they really need to figure out a way to do it with oppressing consumers and just recreating the same problems in a digital format. Unfortunately, some companies stick with old school ways of doing things because it’s all they know.

  • destructorv2 October 27, 2009 at 6:51 PM

    you know, i don’t think this “piracy fighting brigade” is gonna do it. I’m sure some will be deleted. but i feel… whats the point? The reason certain animes were streamed for free is because other people would wanna watch a show only Japan is stingy about. I’ll be happy if the anime is sold worldwide but some well known ones are not, yeah thats what the credit card is for but what if the person dun have it?

    I can’t say much about it cos i kinda not know how to defend it, but mainly. I don’t ever support piracy at all. but at sometimes, their lifesavers

  • destructorv2 October 27, 2009 at 6:58 PM

    oh i forgot, some resort to piracy is cos the dvd and tv’s video quality is full of it. yeech! That was one of the defends in Singapore where there was a company named Odex screwing things up for people.
    Their service was crap, and they offer so little.

    And their subs are very very bad, its like they just translate the japs with an auto computer software and dun bother proof reading.

    Its like you’re really supporting people to continue piracy.

  • Brian Smiley October 27, 2009 at 11:53 PM

    These idiots do realize that they’re killing what they love over here AND if anime does go back to being non-mainstream it WON’T be as ‘glorious’ they think the so called ‘Good ol’ days’ were, right?

  • EagleEyes October 28, 2009 at 2:18 AM

    Ohhh a political debate. YIPPIE!

  • AnarchoElk October 28, 2009 at 12:20 PM

    This isn’t meant as some sort of elitist snobbery, but usually when something becomes mainstream, it degrades, either because the general public has poor taste, or because now that it is mainstream, they don’t have to try as hard to get the same or better sales than they did when it was niche. So I have to disagree at least with the idea that mainstreaming of anime has been a good thing. It gave birth to crap like Totally Spies.

  • Chibi-Acer October 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM

    What? Totally Spies was actually kind of funny.

  • destructorv2 October 28, 2009 at 6:45 PM

    @ Chibi-Acer
    Most of the jokes there is like “……i don’t get it”

    Actually point taken on attempting to mainstream anime, you dun just get Totally Spies (my gawd…), you also get its retarded cousins like Martin Mystery and The Amazing Spies. Kappa Mikey was made to make fun of anime.

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