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Shin_No_Kokoro 01-11-2010 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by XIamSogekingX (Post 4731)
That show had alot of censor bears and chirping birds...for good reason though. I understand why they did it and I respect that. That's why you have DVD's with uncut glory.

And thas y i proudly own all of them ^_^

Oni 01-11-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Catilena1890 (Post 4742)
Most of the stuff I`ve seen was subbed by WPP, I don`t know them that well so probably. All I know is I have seen Netto, Konahamaru, and Satoshi *Ash* all say S*** and the six letter B word every 5 minutes or so when I watched their subbed-japanese counterparts

Probably added in to replace "damn it" or "damn you".

Shin_No_Kokoro 01-11-2010 04:43 PM

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In the fansubs there can be a lot of mistranlations, but in official dubs they get changed to lesser swears like crap intead s*** or damn you instead of f*** u and the like

Catilena1890 01-11-2010 04:47 PM

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Nope. I`ve seen them say that as well. I actually saw a dubbed naruto episode where they let that slip through. I think it was during the Sannin Fight where Orochimaru, Jiraiya, and Tsunade all brought their beasts out while Naruto fought Kabuto, and when Kabuto dodged the rasengan and used his med-jutsu on Narutos hip, naruto actually said "damn it", in the dubbed anime. I had that episode recorded *but since lost the tape* and I replayed that scene over and over to make sure I was hearing right, and sure enough, with 5 replays, I heard him curse. Go figure.

TAKE THAT FCC! YOU FAIL AT LIFE!

CantStrafeRight 01-11-2010 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Oni (Post 4692)
Unless you're skimming through the text on the bottom of the screen, thus not taking it in, you'll be reading it in your own voice.

I'm pretty sure I'm taking it in.
In my head I always use the voice of the character when I'm reading subtitles, novels or comics. It's only if I have no idea what a voice sounds like that I use my own, and even then my voice in my head is very different from my real voice.

I'm not saying that no ones brain works the way you describe, I'm just saying that not everyone's does.

Oni 01-11-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CantStrafeRight (Post 4776)
I'm pretty sure I'm taking it in.
In my head I always use the voice of the character when I'm reading subtitles, novels or comics. It's only if I have no idea what a voice sounds like that I use my own, and even then my voice in my head is very different from my real voice.

I'm not saying that no ones brain works the way you describe, I'm just saying that not everyone's does.

Yes, but most people do work like that. Especially when the voice in question is attached to another language.

Zero Gravity 01-12-2010 01:02 PM

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I'm off an on about dubbing and subbing, I prefer the dubbing for Death Note, although I dislike the Pokemon dub.

I have no sense of favoritism

XIamSogekingX 01-12-2010 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Gravity (Post 5127)
I'm off an on about dubbing and subbing, I prefer the dubbing for Death Note, although I dislike the Pokemon dub.

I have no sense of favoritism

And you know what, you don't need a favorite. Just make a decision when the time comes. If you think the dub is bad, then watch the sub. If you like the dub then watch that. No real reason to have a set belief in this situation.

Oni 01-13-2010 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by XIamSogekingX (Post 5231)
And you know what, you don't need a favorite. Just make a decision when the time comes. If you think the dub is bad, then watch the sub. If you like the dub then watch that. No real reason to have a set belief in this situation.

Exactly, or else you'll be labelled as biased by your peers.

ace8489 01-13-2010 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by XIamSogekingX (Post 5231)
And you know what, you don't need a favorite. Just make a decision when the time comes. If you think the dub is bad, then watch the sub. If you like the dub then watch that. No real reason to have a set belief in this situation.

Yeah thats a good what to go about it.

DJ M.O.T.D 01-13-2010 05:31 AM

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It all depends on the anime.

I prefer FMA's Dub. also naruto's dub isn't all that awful.
But some anime are MEANT to be watched dubbed. like Lucky Star.

chefofdeath 01-13-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ M.O.T.D (Post 5342)
It all depends on the anime.

i agree with you on that one i was watchen devil may cry dub it was awful. . . i guess because once u have seen a certain show in subs and when u watch it in dubs it feels some what wrong

bemused_Bohemian 01-13-2010 01:26 PM

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Prefer sub as long as I don't have to speed-read. Some of these release sub captions are only visible for a milli-second. I have to freeze the frame to stay "caught up". Also, Sub proves to all my past deceased or dying school instructors (since I am an old dude) that their classroom lessons re the language didn't go to waste or in vain. Dub seems to change the nuance or tenor of the scene. Sometimes this technique is helpful in my comprehension if there is a point or concept I might have missed watching the sub alternative.

XIamSogekingX 01-13-2010 02:09 PM

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Watching a show like Bobobo-bo bo-bobo was very weird and you can't really get the full effect of it when it is dubbed but watching it subbed doesnt really help much either. Some jokes and sayins just dont transfer over very well and it's a thing that you just have to be deep into the culture to get.

TheGreatMoof 01-13-2010 02:42 PM

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A lot of times for me, it depends on the initial point of contact. I saw Cowboy Bebop fansubbed years before I saw an episode of the English translation and even though the dub is pretty much amazing, I still tend to watch the subs for that one. The only things that will change this rule, I've noticed, are quality of a sub/dub. If either version is really horrible, I'll watch the other. And if I find that one is more awesome than the one I'm used to, I'll be able to watch both pretty easily.

dbull620 01-13-2010 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by XIamSogekingX (Post 4027)
I know I am more of a sub person just because I dont like the restrictions of language and certain scenes when watching it on TV. You can usually get a uncut version when you buy the DVDs and that will make up for it but my over all thing for watching sub over dub is just because I like the japanese voice overs better then the English ones. The closer you can get to the original idea and direction, the better it is.

I definitely agree with that, though there are some instances where I like the dub just fine. It mostly rests on the quality of the dub. Personally, I liked the Elfen Lied, Solty Rei, Inuyasha, Code Geass, Full Metal Alchemist, and Death Note dubs well enough that I'm fine watching either the subbed or dubbed versions, but for the most part I prefer subbed.

XIamSogekingX 01-13-2010 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dbull620 (Post 5461)
I definitely agree with that, though there are some instances where I like the dub just fine. It mostly rests on the quality of the dub. Personally, I liked the Elfen Lied, Solty Rei, Inuyasha, Code Geass, Full Metal Alchemist, and Death Note dubs well enough that I'm fine watching either the subbed or dubbed versions, but for the most part I prefer subbed.

Indeed, most of those dubs and I am just fine with. I really have no specifics with it though I usually watch a sub of an anime first then watch the dub of it on TV or somewhere else then compare from there.

AudriSampson 01-19-2010 01:37 PM

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For me I do only subs.. While dubs have been improving I feel like the sub gets me closer to what the original creators, animators and VA's want me to experience. With that in mind I have a fairly big pet peeve for when the American industry feels the need for whatever reason to remove culture references or "Americanize" an anime.

mitamaking 01-19-2010 01:57 PM

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If the dub is good, I prefer the dub but I can watch both. For example FMA has a bad Japanese cast but it's American cast was great. Whereas a meh dub like Tower of Druaga I prefer subbed.

Oni 01-19-2010 01:57 PM

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But they haven't "Americanized" an anime for around...7 to 8 years?

Tewy 01-19-2010 02:20 PM

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i love sub just cause its the original one and when i was bored and decided to compare a episode from Naruto I couldn't stop laughing at the dub version because i would notice that when a character was to talk their mouth movements weren't in sync with the audio vocals also in my opinion the person behind the voice in dub sounds very odd. But, if i can't find a certain anime in sub then I wouldn't mind watching it in dub.

AudriSampson 01-19-2010 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Oni (Post 6797)
But they haven't "Americanized" an anime for around...7 to 8 years?

Actually no.. Just recently Funimation did a huge re-write on Sgt Frog.. It even has a Heath Ledger reference now...

Oni 01-19-2010 02:55 PM

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Yes, but people liked that however.

Stone 01-19-2010 03:29 PM

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I like both the same, as it is nice when you donĀ“t have to look down the whole time to read the subs for dubs, but with dubs, many jokes get lost and not always there are awesome voice actors for it, though I have to say that they always do their best.

ZshadowX 01-19-2010 03:33 PM

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It all depends, if the series finish and if its already been dub i watch it but if there no dub ver then i watch the sub,( Imo I think the sub is way better)

G U R U 01-20-2010 12:30 AM

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Sub by a mile. The amount of Dubs I like can be counted on one hand compared to the hundreds of subs I like.

That-Pig-Has-A-Bow 01-20-2010 03:44 AM

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I like both, but I have a preference towards one or the other with some anime...depends on which I watch it in first (subbed or dubbed ) as to which way I like it better. If that makes any sense @_@

EagleEyes 01-20-2010 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by That-Pig-Has-A-Bow (Post 7018)
I like both, but I have a preference towards one or the other with some anime...depends on which I watch it in first (subbed or dubbed ) as to which way I like it better. If that makes any sense @_@

Thats exactly how I feel. Must be an Australian thing? :yurp:

Oni 01-20-2010 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by EagleEyes (Post 7022)
Thats exactly how I feel. Must be an Australian thing? :yurp:

I'd disagree with that, as I'll watch it in whatever language may be available. Although when I start something in a certain language, I'd like to finish it in that language.

XIamSogekingX 01-20-2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AudriSampson (Post 6807)
Actually no.. Just recently Funimation did a huge re-write on Sgt Frog.. It even has a Heath Ledger reference now...

Right, I think that will work fine because some references that make sense over there, don't always translate right over here so adding in these known references help it out some but not ruining the whole experience.

That-Pig-Has-A-Bow 01-21-2010 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Oni (Post 7023)
I'd disagree with that, as I'll watch it in whatever language may be available. Although when I start something in a certain language, I'd like to finish it in that language.

I agree with watching an anime in one language for the entire season/series etc. But there are times where I like to listen to it in another language (namely english) just to see how much better or worse the voices are.

Can't say I've deviated away from listening to anything other than English or Japanese though :P

Oni 01-21-2010 01:58 AM

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If I watch the anime in a language other than the one I originally started with, it's usually because I bought the DVDs. If I buy the DVDs of a series I have already seen, I'll always watch it in the language opposite to what I originally listened to.

victorious0702 01-21-2010 05:13 PM

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For the most part i would say subs are better, DBZ is perty bad in subs id say but then again i saw most of that series in spanish... I personally pay moar attention to subs than dubs because having to read the subs means i cant really multi task and do or think about other things which i usually do with dubs. I even put subs on dubs at times even in video games. If i really like a series i would watch it twice once in each.

if you cant read and pay attention to wats happening in the screen then you fail at life and should strictly watch dubs.

I know way more japanese VAs than english because i like them better and they have great songs in anime which many are done by the japanese VA. I have seen plenty of anime in subs and dubs so i am perty comfortable saying subs are better for the hardcore fans.

Oni 01-21-2010 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by victorious0702 (Post 7379)
if you cant read and pay attention to wats happening in the screen then you fail at life and should strictly watch dubs.

That line there is strikingly ignorant to the fact that some people like dubs by choice.

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I have seen plenty of anime in subs and dubs so i am perty comfortable saying subs are better for the hardcore fans.
So is this.

victorious0702 01-21-2010 06:17 PM

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the first line u quoted i have no idea why u called ignorant. i never said dubs were bad, it just means if you honestly cant read something on the screen and pay attention to wats happening in the background then ur a bit slow so id recommend watching dubs if it gets in the way of understanding the anime.

overall hardcore fans would enjoy subs over dubs. i said hardcore because if the concept of japan is too strange or new to you then you might enjoy dubs better. make an experiment and have 100 people who have watched over 100 animes watch a random anime they havent seen in both japanese and english im pretty sure at least 60% of them would say they prefer japanese with subs on average if this test was done many times. It does not seem like ur new to anime so im pretty sure u should know this oni. even though you are an exception to this.

Oni 01-21-2010 06:25 PM

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I called the first line ignorant because some people choose not to read and watch what's happening at the same time, it's not because they're slow.

Actually, that second paragraph is really...wow, I wasn't aware we had people on the site who were this close minded. That paragraph would have been correct, 15 years ago. "Hardcore" is merely being into something a lot, liking it to an extend more than others, it doesn't designate how you prefer to experience whatever you're in to.

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i said hardcore because if the concept of japan is too strange or new to you then you might enjoy dubs better.
This implies that most anime that have been dubbed by the Americans have been Americanised. Ignorance.

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make an experiment and have 100 people who have watched over 100 animes watch a random anime they havent seen in both japanese and english im pretty sure at least 60% of them would say they prefer japanese with subs.
That depends entirely on the anime in question.

victorious0702 01-21-2010 06:37 PM

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once again i did not say anything about preference on the first quote i just stated a fact, if you like dubs better i did not say ur slow, if you thought i did then im saying it now that i didnt. I dont even consider watching 100 animes as being hardcore but i used that to point the example (did not know what else to use for that example to work) since hardcore is not a concrete term it was slightly better than saying anyone.

Most anime dubbed by americans has been americanised. The fact that its english alone is enough even if dialogue is exactly the same. Thats why i said might because it does depend on the viewer.

I also edited my test result around the same time you quoted me to say "on average if this test was done many times" so i apologize for my mistake there.

Bonediddly 01-21-2010 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Oni (Post 7402)
That depends entirely on the anime in question.

How about Bebop, Trigun, Kenshin, Baccano, and Death Note?

victorious0702 01-21-2010 06:53 PM

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The english is better in bebop, trigun is around the same, english better in kenshin and japanese better in baccano and desu note. My opinion only though.

.wneivf 01-21-2010 07:27 PM

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it really depends on the anime , I used to be a big sub person but I have grown to like some of the dubs. The main factor is if the dub is awful really and they are not faithful to the anime in question as mentioned above the Cowboy bepop dub was good , Hellsing was another really good one in my opinion.


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