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Originally Posted by Elc1247
sigh... you still have no valid point, i have told you before, to try to stay on subject, that it is over, but no, you must bring it up again, if thats not trolling... well, then you have an odd definition of such a thing.
but when it comes to linearity, i believe the general consensus is the lack of an ability to do any exploring, you are given a hallway to run through, theres no big dungeons that you trek through every nook and cranny to find extra items and possibly uncover a side story of sorts. what is usually referred to as the notion of linearity in video games is the inability to have any freedom to explore. as an example, you cant really explore in platform games usually, IE sonic, old mario games, crash bandicoot, uncharted, etc. nor in most generic FPS games either IE call of duty.
another note there are DnD type games in video games, one recent example is Dragon Age, you cant say that there are no "non-linear" rpgs because the game developer is technically the "dungeon master", its like playing with a dungeon master that already has the entire game made up in his mind, all the areas and key events, and there is random chance in most rpgs, instead of rolling dice manually, you use a random number generator, most "RPG" games are in a sense, DnD, just how close it is to the "oldschool" DnD with paper and dice, depends on the game >_> by your definition, the only kinds of games that would come even close to a "non-linear" game are open sandbox games like Elder Scrolls and the like, but even those would be considered linear to your standards because things are already decided for you, the game has a definite end and you are limited as to what you can do in the world. linearity has different standards when it comes to video games depending on the kind of game it is.
i could go on, but i would be wasting my time, its only going to get worse. must you try to discredit my opinions at every turn and try to provoke me? seems like you are a pretty unfriendly lot when it comes to others stating their thoughts.
sigh... i think ill go ignore the forum for a while, i thought i could pop in every once in a while and throw in my two cents and join in the fun, instead i get in a petty squabble.
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Trolling? I know a biased opinion when I see it. If that wasn't biased, like you have been about the DS as well, then I don't know what is. I was able to reveal the exaggerated prices you were quoting, $10 cheaper then has been specified on the net, and I was also able to reveal how Live for the 360 has not been pulled, and that Live on the original Xbox is a global thing. Not some Japanese-only thing. If that wasn't just me providing counter-argument, I don't know what is.
There is a reason there are two different definitions for "RPG", and it is clearly specified that the definition for a table top and console RPG are very different. The story in a table top RPG can be shaped via every member of the game, due to the fact that the game master is a living, breathing human being who is present for the entire game, not only just pre-game. What happens there can be shaped by what
I say,
I don't have to save the princess, my friend can instead while
I slay the dragon. Capice? Where in a console RPG,
I have to save that princess and
someone else will have to beat that dragon for me. I have no choice in the matter.
Elder Scrolls, like Fable, have a different system though. By my choice, I can choose to do evil things or good things, or both, which will determine the end game. It isn't based on something as shallow as a digit next to my character's name.
To
others stating their opinion? Unfriendly? Hah. If you're going to waltz into a forum and be ready to start tossing opinions and trying to pass off individual facts as the one whole truth of the matter, you're going to run into people with opposing opinions and the other set of facts that you leave out due to irrational thinking. Just because my opinion differs doesn't mean it's wrong, or that you are wrong either. I can, however, challenge your opinion. This is a controversial topic about a game that hasn't even reached our shores.
Also, what's this 'lot' business? I wasn't aware that the forums shared one personality as a collective.
[quote=Llian]Anyway, ON TOPIC. I saw IGN's review yesterday; they gave it a 8.5 I think. Fans are just irritated with lol linearity.[quote]
We have been. Read said argument, rather just skimming it. The last 3-4 posts have clearly been about FFXIII.