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黒と赤「KUROtoAKA」 01-09-2010 10:43 PM

Final Fantasy XIII
 
Lately, I've been seeing plenty of criticism over the Japanese release of Final Fantasy XIII.

For example:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/1...ece-of-string/
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/1...is-a-bad-game/


I had been looking forward to this game and I really didn't want to such news dissuade me from buying it, but it really isn't looking good. Is anyone else disappointed? Who still plans on buying the game?

Shin_No_Kokoro 01-09-2010 10:47 PM

Re: Final Fantasy XIII
 
To be honest with you ive been utterly dissapointed with the FFX series since FFXII came out i honestly can't believe it got worse T_T. I don't recommend buying it for playing value but if your a collecter of the sereis much like me you'll probably end up buying it

Oni 01-09-2010 10:52 PM

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Well, I've been waiting for FFXIII for ages. I've even skipped over FFXI and FFXII.

Yes, I am glad the heroine is a female this time (no Yuna will never be a main-main character in my eyes).

黒と赤「KUROtoAKA」 01-09-2010 10:52 PM

Re: Final Fantasy XIII
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin_No_Kokoro (Post 3830)
To be honest with you ive been utterly dissapointed with the FFX series since FFXII came out i honestly can't believe it got worse T_T. I don't recommend buying it for playing value but if your a collecter of the sereis much like me you'll probably end up buying it

Actually, I enjoyed FFX and FFXII. I thought XII was going to be bad, but it turned out all right in my opinion. I only started playing at FFVII, which I also enjoyed very much, but I know many have said that the entire series has just been getting progressively worse. I haven't played anything before VII, so my opinion may be skewed.

Oni 01-09-2010 10:54 PM

Re: Final Fantasy XIII
 
The games prior to 3D, most notably VI and IV, have got to be the best in the series.

黒と赤「KUROtoAKA」 01-09-2010 10:55 PM

Re: Final Fantasy XIII
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oni (Post 3844)
The games prior to 3D, most notably VI and IV, have got to be the best in the series.

So I've heard. ^_^ I got VI recently, but I haven't gotten around to playing it yet.

Shin_No_Kokoro 01-09-2010 10:56 PM

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i honestly remember playin FF on the SNES when i was a kid, I'm telling you right nao there was no such thing as cloud or yuna xD But it has indeed lost its charm and it becoming more of an adventure game rather than rpg, now Xenosaga that was as gud as 3D rpgs get

Oni 01-09-2010 10:57 PM

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VI has got to have the very best villain. Sepheroth can't hold a candle to Kefka.

Shin_No_Kokoro 01-09-2010 10:59 PM

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I totally agree with that, i remember dyin like 20 times b4 gettin him and still it was a close call

黒と赤「KUROtoAKA」 01-09-2010 11:00 PM

Re: Final Fantasy XIII
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin_No_Kokoro (Post 3854)
I totally agree with that, i remember dyin like 20 times b4 gettin him and still it was a close call

In that case, I forsee plenty of frustration in my future. ^_^

Shin_No_Kokoro 01-09-2010 11:01 PM

Re: Final Fantasy XIII
 
Dresspheres definately not ftw, had to be said

Kanashimi 01-09-2010 11:15 PM

Re: Final Fantasy XIII
 
I will definitely still be buying it. Now it should probably be noted that I buy plenty of games all the time, so this is something I want to judge for myself. Reviews I always take with a grain of salt, even if they all happen to be right... I want to be the one to say that. I've heard so many times a game is great just to find it isn't my type of game or I personally dislike it. So my views are a bit different than most.

I'll be picking it up with an open mind, and if I truly dislike it then I'll tell you then.

Shin_No_Kokoro 01-09-2010 11:21 PM

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Kana is right i mean thats exactly what a gamer should do all the time, rely on your preference rather than other

黒と赤「KUROtoAKA」 01-09-2010 11:24 PM

Re: Final Fantasy XIII
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin_No_Kokoro (Post 3861)
Dresspheres definately not ftw, had to be said

I actually enjoyed that game too, lol. The story was lame, but I did enjoy the gameplay while others hated it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanashimi (Post 3866)
I'll be picking it up with an open mind, and if I truly dislike it then I'll tell you then.

I'll most likely be doing the same.

Oni 01-09-2010 11:36 PM

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I'll bet I am the only one who enjoyed FFVIII and FFIX. xD

黒と赤「KUROtoAKA」 01-09-2010 11:50 PM

Re: Final Fantasy XIII
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oni (Post 3882)
I'll bet I am the only one who enjoyed FFVIII and FFIX. xD

^_^ I know a lot of people who enjoyed IX, including myself (except for the end, WTF was that about?). Unfortunately, I'm not a big fan of VIII, and it remains the only FF (out of the one's I've played) that I haven't finished.

XIamSogekingX 01-10-2010 06:17 AM

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Same here about FFVIII, I just couldn't get through the whole thing...Oh well.

I will definetly pick it up and try it out. The linear map article does make it look boring but the videos of the battle system look very interesting and definetly want to try that out.

If anything, I kinda want to look into FFXIV (the new MMORPG) I played some of FFXI but because my friends were playing WOW, I switched over. I've also been interested in FF Tactics and FF Crystal Chronicles series. They bring new battle systems with familiar classes and settings and that's what I like :D

黒と赤「KUROtoAKA」 01-10-2010 09:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by XIamSogekingX
If anything, I kinda want to look into FFXIV (the new MMORPG) I played some of FFXI but because my friends were playing WOW, I switched over. I've also been interested in FF Tactics and FF Crystal Chronicles series. They bring new battle systems with familiar classes and settings and that's what I like :D

I never got into the Crystal Chronicles series, mainly because I didn't have a Gamecube when the original came out. But since the new one is for the Wii, I may give it a shot. As for Tactics, I have the original, I haven't played it yet, but I always hear it's amazing. I did play Tactics A2, which was really good, but I never finished it because I kept getting sidetracked redoing missions and boring myself.

XIamSogekingX 01-10-2010 11:19 AM

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Gamecube Crystal Chronicles was good when you had another person to play with though I was able to have fun with it even by myself. It also gave me a chance to use my GBA Gamecube cable which gave me some bonuses in the game. The Wii one is getting some good reviews and will no doubt be a must have for the FF fan.

Yeah going through all those missions can be a pain but I think it's good that you have all those missions so if you are not strong enough to pass a key mission, you can do a side mission to bring up your level.

ImagineBreaker 01-11-2010 06:21 AM

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IMO FFXII was good story / character wise, but the fight system was awful.
Also,FFVII is the most over rated FF. FFIX is very under rated, along with VIII.
FFX got loved because of the gap between IX and X, Ps1 to PS2.

More on the topic anyway, im siked for XIII.
Ive looked at every thing i could find about it, i recon it will be awesome.
Only thing i dont like is when they went all multi platform, then downgraded the original plan.
Then to fix the angry people like myself then did the PS3 exclusive "Versus".
Now apparently i have to buy 2 games.


As for FFXIV, also looking forward to it, but it has some big shoes to fit in MMORPG atm with Aion racking in alot of people, not to mention before that warhammer for all the warhammer junkies.


my 2cents anyway, i guess we just got to wait for them to come out before we can say they suck.

Bonediddly 01-11-2010 10:05 AM

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They all sucked after V. I couldn't be less interested.

zanctium 01-16-2010 09:57 AM

Re: Final Fantasy XIII
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 黒と赤「KUROtoAKA」 (Post 3892)
^_^ I know a lot of people who enjoyed IX, including myself (except for the end, WTF was that about?). Unfortunately, I'm not a big fan of VIII, and it remains the only FF (out of the one's I've played) that I haven't finished.

I have found FFVIII to be one of the best FF games ever. It had the most unique story ever. It had a system that actually made you excited to collect things. (GF's, magic, weapon upgrades all played a major part in stats and over powering) It had a great story that involved a lot of unique people. And the secrets you can find are amazing and rewarding. The music is amazing and is probably the best in series. And for the day the look was simply awe striking. And to a lesser extent the card game is totally awesome and actually serves a purpose when you get Card Mod.

I hope you reconsider it.

G U R U 01-16-2010 01:56 PM

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My fav FF is 10. Idk something makes me feel like 13 is gonna suck. Just a hunch.

Kate 01-16-2010 02:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by G U R U (Post 6118)
My fav FF is 10. Idk something makes me feel like 13 is gonna suck. Just a hunch.

Trailers full of drama?

Shadowblade Edge 01-16-2010 02:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kate (Post 6121)
Trailers full of drama?

Drama! What a foreign concept to Final Fantasy, just like linearity. They need to stop ♫♫♫♫ing up the formula.

Oni 01-16-2010 04:30 PM

Re: Final Fantasy XIII
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by G U R U (Post 6118)
My fav FF is 10. Idk something makes me feel like 13 is gonna suck. Just a hunch.

Why? It's along the same lines at X.

G U R U 01-16-2010 06:13 PM

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Yah that's true but that also might be part of the problem. FFX isn't just my fav FF it's one of my fav games of all time so it's kinda hard for me to get my hopes up when I have such high expectations.

But I hope Square proves me wrong.

黒と赤「KUROtoAKA」 01-16-2010 10:51 PM

Re: Final Fantasy XIII
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zanctium (Post 6082)
I have found FFVIII to be one of the best FF games ever. It had the most unique story ever. It had a system that actually made you excited to collect things. (GF's, magic, weapon upgrades all played a major part in stats and over powering) It had a great story that involved a lot of unique people. And the secrets you can find are amazing and rewarding. The music is amazing and is probably the best in series. And for the day the look was simply awe striking. And to a lesser extent the card game is totally awesome and actually serves a purpose when you get Card Mod.

I hope you reconsider it.

i wasn't putting it down or anything, i just haven't gotten around to finishing it. i'll consider picking it up again since you're opinion is so encouraging. ^_^ actually, i didn't stop playing it because i didn't like it, rather i got stuck in some place where i had no idea what to do. XP

Kanashimi 01-17-2010 04:24 PM

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The song... that "My Hands" song is driving me crazy. The melodramatics is just a huge annoyance.

victorious0702 01-17-2010 04:34 PM

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Ive played just about all the number FFs and enjoyed them all (some more than others)
My favorite Final Fantasys are FFVI, VII, and Tactics - Yeah FF Tactics had a great story.
the other ones if i were to rank them would be as follows, they are japanese release btw.

FFVIII
FFIV
FFV
FFIII
FF
FFII
FFIX
FFX
FFX-2
FFXII

i didnt really like the "Draw" system in FF8 but other than that it was a great game with many fun sidequests and a great card game.

dbull620 01-18-2010 01:08 PM

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I've played most of the Final Fantasy games. The only one I haven't played is XI (I don't do pay-to-play), and the only one I never finished was XII (got sick of the gambit system essentially playing the game for me, and the fact that the BGM didn't change when you encountered enemies on the field map didn't help either).

I'm optimistic about this one, in general the first FF game in each console generation is my favorite (can't make up my mind about the PS1 FF games, all 3 had their own merits that made them great).

Elc1247 02-24-2010 12:03 AM

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oh man... ive been hearing a large amount of complaints about the game... and the fact that its being sold new in japan for the price of a old used PS3 game is a serious indication as to how good it is... FF7 was the last FF game i know that could be considered "great" in my opinion. as far as i know for FF games... id rank them high to low of ones ive played

FFVII
FFVI
FFIV
FFX
FFIX
FFXII
FFVIII

but then there are some square games that should also be considered as amazing RPGs too... i remember the heyday of Square games... back in the day of Chrono Trigger, FFVI, and Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars...

but anyways, im not going to just toss FFXIII aside just because of how the Japanese took the game... im going to at least try it out and see for myself how well it can hold itself to the old classics.

Oni 02-24-2010 02:13 AM

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Quote:

but anyways, im not going to just toss FFXIII aside just because of how the Japanese took the game... im going to at least try it out and see for myself how well it can hold itself to the old classics.
What's 'holding up to the old classics' got to do anything? I wasn't aware we were afraid of change still.

Bonediddly 02-24-2010 10:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oni (Post 9597)
What's 'holding up to the old classics' got to do anything? I wasn't aware we were afraid of change still.

I'm preeetty sure he meant 'how good it is in comparison with the games we (pretty much) agree are good', not 'I hope this is exactly like the originals'.

Oni 02-24-2010 01:39 PM

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Well, I just don't where all the prejudice is coming from though. We don't even have the game yet, just trailers.

Kanashimi 02-24-2010 01:57 PM

Re: Final Fantasy XIII
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oni (Post 9606)
Well, I just don't where all the prejudice is coming from though. We don't even have the game yet, just trailers.

I'm pretty sure it's due to how the Japanese market pretty much trashed it. While Japanese reviewers such as the magazine Famitsu gave it great scores, many people spoke up saying it was terrible. People are naturally taking any negative they hear over the good. It doesn't help that several news outlets in the states have already agreed that with the fact that the game isn't very good, then again most RPGs in terms of reviews don't do that great over here.

So it's a matter of perceptive and influence. It's naturally going to happen.

Oni 02-24-2010 02:11 PM

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-Googles-

Ah, I see it now. It's basically FFX, but with less stuff, yet more walking...like FFX.

Zero Gravity 02-25-2010 03:38 PM

Re: Final Fantasy XIII
 
Despite the Japanese market, I've taken note that in America the Xbox is King and PS3 is the Jester while in Japan it's the complete opposite.
I honestly think FF13 will do well here, and I don't expect a dramatic price drop for the game until a year or so from now.
All I know is...
It won't be all Sugar and Rainbows after this
-shot-

points to anyone who gets that

Llian 02-25-2010 05:53 PM

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I've been hearing everyone hated it just because of it's linearity. I think that's a bit of an overstatement. DMC, Bayonetta, just to name are few are all linear as well yet no one criticizes them for it. It could be a really good game... Not as nice as it COULD have been mind you, but nice nevertheless. I myself was looking forward to versus more than anything.

Oni 02-25-2010 07:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Llian (Post 9671)
I've been hearing everyone hated it just because of it's linearity. I think that's a bit of an overstatement. DMC, Bayonetta, just to name are few are all linear as well yet no one criticizes them for it. It could be a really good game... Not as nice as it COULD have been mind you, but nice nevertheless. I myself was looking forward to versus more than anything.

Well, both DMC and Bayonetta are also action games though.


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